Reish Lakish took the issue of the Land of Israel very seriously, even very personally. I hate you [the Babylonian Jews as a whole, who did not come back in the days of Ezra, and thereby prevented the Shechinah the Divine presence from returning and once again infusing the rebuilt Holy Temple].
So grievous was the sin of the generation of the Jews of Babylon in not returning to Israel when they had the opportunity, that Reish Lakish still held Rabbah bar Bar Chanah personally responsible centuries later. We live today in an interesting era: it is maybe the first time in history that the overwhelming majority of Jews live in free countries. The only countries whose governments are openly and officially hostile to Jews and Judaism, and which still have sizeable Jewish communities, are Iran , Jews in , down to 8, today and Turkey 23, Jews in , down to 14, today.
Jews in increasing numbers, the world over, feel increasingly uncertain n an uncertain world. The uneasy question once again arises: Have Jews really found resting-places for the soles of their feet? It is a sad reflection that so many Jews need anti-Semitism to convince them to make Aliyah. What about the state of the land post-flood? Okay, good questions here. We can pick up the Flood story and other associated points of interest in Genesis After forty days Noah opened a window he had made in the ark and sent out a raven, and it kept flying back and forth until the water had dried up from the earth.
Genesis So first of all Noah sent out a raven. Why a raven? Because Noah knew that birds of the rook and crow family which includes the raven are birds of prey which are attracted to carrion; if any decaying flesh was on top of the waters which were now rapidly receding the raven would not have been keen to fly back to the ark and very possibly would not have returned to the ark at all.
However, the inspired text tells us that this raven "kept flying back and forth until the water had dried up from the earth. So - in evaluating the behaviour of the raven - Noah knew that more time needed to be allowed for the drying of the Earth. Then he sent out a dove to see if the water had receded from the surface of the ground. But the dove could find nowhere to perch because there was water over all the surface of the earth; so it returned to Noah in the ark.
He reached out his hand and took the dove and brought it back to himself in the ark. He waited seven more days and again sent out the dove from the ark. The bird flew back and forth until the floodwaters on the earth had dried up. English Standard Version and sent forth a raven. It went to and fro until the waters were dried up from the earth. Berean Study Bible and sent out a raven. It kept flying back and forth until the waters had dried up from the earth.
King James Bible And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth. New King James Version Then he sent out a raven, which kept going to and fro until the waters had dried up from the earth. New American Standard Bible and he sent out a raven, and it flew here and there until the water was dried up from the earth. NASB and he sent out a raven, and it flew here and there until the water was dried up from the earth.
Amplified Bible and he sent out a raven, which flew here and there until the waters were dried up from the earth. Christian Standard Bible and he sent out a raven. Abel, his youngest brother, is described as a righteous man with a pure heart.
After all God had just cleansed the whole world, what was the point to send the impure raven first? Also an important fact to consider, if Noah only wanted to know if the vegetation had started to grow there was no need to send a raven, the Dove was fully capable of providing this information without help.
At the time the Raven started its mission the flood water level was still going down. That mission lasted 28 days from my own chronology and it ended when the water level stabilized. See Gen And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth. Why did the raven kept coming back to the Ark going to and fro instead of flying away as expected from an animal able to feed from carrion?
And this is exactly what Noah was hoping to see the raven do. Fortunately that hazard disappeared as soon as the level of water became stable. The raven had successfully accomplished its mission.
For instance, it was normal behavior for the Dove to return to the Ark after each flight, the Ark had been its home for almost a year. This explains why the Dove brought back a leaf or an olive branch to the Ark. It was trying to build a nest. There is much more to say. Thank you! This explanation makes complete sense. After reading through so many others I was still confused.
Doing a little research myself on Doves, this explanation cleared my confusion as to why a Raven and Dove were sent. I enjoyed reading your post, Rabbi.
It helped clarify the symbolic interpretation of the passage. All the insightful comments provided by other readers were greatly helpful also. It feels good to find people who know that Christ is the Messiah, and who understand that studying the Torah and Old Testament is necessary for knowing the truth of our Messiah. You wrote that this meant the raven did not return.
This suggests that the raven went out from and came back to the ark repeatedly and did not simply leave. This has been mentioned several times in the comments, but I wanted to bring it up again, since nobody referenced the original Hebrew and since you never directly addressed this in your replies. I would like to hear what you think. An earlier commenter brought this up, and you commented that you had written on this elsewhere, without linking to the actual blog post.
Do you have the specific Scripture reference? The Ark its self first represences the heaven a safe place Noah here is representing God the Father,notice that when he send Raven the bible never talked about the other partner of the Raven or Dove,The Dove represence the Holy Spirit of God it has 9 feather on its left and right wings one side representing the 9 ministries of Holy Spirit,and other side the 9beutitudes in the book of Matthew,and a Dove has 5 feathers at back representing the 5 fold ministries!
On case of the Raven I would say the devil was in the Ark rember the Ark symbolizes the heavens. God Noah sends the Raven and it went to and fro who else in the bible has this character of walking to and fro Devil himself ,read the book of Job. So I think the pic is clear now. On this case the Raven symbolizes the Devil. Rich, I must say that I am so thankful I stumbled into your website searching for true Hebrew meaning of a curse.
However, I was not sure whether the divine can both mean The Divine One as well as the evil one. Now, on this particular article, the Raven and the Dove was equally amazing.
Thank you so much. Also, I believe that you are aware that not all Christians believe in the intriune nature of God, but rather as is written in Deuteronomy among many other scriptures in both the Old and the New Testaments. I was reading Genesis 8 in my study this morning and found your website. I have a similar understanding of the passage with some differences regarding the symbolisms of the dove and its 3 sending forth events. Like you, I believe the raven represents Satan who indeed is going to and fro the earth until the water dries up from the earth.
I believe the dove is representative of the Holy Spirit and the milestones of His presence on earth demarcated by the Lord Jesus Christ. The first time the dove is sent out represents the pre-Jesus sending out of the Holy Spirit whereby in the Old Covenant days, He would come upon certain humans episodically to accomplish specific tasks.
But He could not perch on anyone because none was a worthy temple and so He always went back to the ark. The second time represents when He found a worthy temple in Jesus Christ who carried the Holy Spirit on the earth. And this was replayed at the baptism of Jesus at the River Jordan when the Spirit of God descended like a dove to alight on Jesus in the water.
However, it still had to return when that One left the earth also and went back to the ark. But that One had also made provision through the cross for many, many, many more to become worthy of carrying the Holy Spirit in them always.
And so, when the dove is sent out the 3rd time, representing Pentecost, it did not return. It stayed on the earth in the Body of the One. The olive branch in Her mouth, symbolizes Her future spiritual children. So Raven symbolises Elijah himself because Elijah always comes first Matthew Jesus comfirmed that Elijah comes first to restore all things. Raven went to and fro meaning it reached everywhere restoring all things.
It will be very good when we are making our point, let us back it up with bible reference for easy trace. I am Magdaline from Kenya. I feel to share about the raven. A raven is a sign of a forgiven sinner in the process of mating because it was included in the Ark while many people went with the flood.
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