Jump to navigation. The cc formula is dead. MotoGP is set to return to cc from , according to a proposal submitted to the Grand Prix Commission at Valencia today. The cc bikes have received a deluge of criticism, almost from the moment they were introduced, and that deluge has finally buried them.
The decision has hinged upon a change of mind by the MSMA, the manufacturers association. So far, the manufacturers have been opposed to any changes to the MotoGP formula, partly because high costs of entry created a barrier to new entrants in the class, allowing the existing participants to dominate the class. But the high costs have taken their toll even on the existing manufacturers, and with the future of Suzuki in the class in doubt under the current rules, and even doubt about just how long Honda was prepared to continue, a change was almost inevitable.
That contract states that no changes may be made to the engine capacity without a unanimous decision by all of the manufacturers in the MSMA. The initial proposal was to allow the use of production engines in prototype chassis, but the current proposal makes no mention of production engines at all. This is more than supported by Dorna, more than supported by Dorna, but the first reaction to this by MSMA is very very positive.
It looks like there is a consensus, but we have to take it day-by-day. The fear is, of course, that a change in engine capacity would not be enough to cut costs, and merely create a new class of expensive prototypes. Poncharal said that this would not be allowed to happen: "The whole idea supported by everybody including the MSMA is to get the costs drastically down.
Poncharal admitted it would be difficult, but said that the Grand Prix Commission would not try to solve everything at once. Asked how to ensure that costs didn't once again spiral out of control, Poncharal replied "That's the next question. One day at a time! I can't believe it! I can only hope the transition goes smoothly and they exercise common sense. I'm still a bit concerned they will continue with the 21L fuel rules which are currently putting enormous emphasis on electronic refinement and pneumatic valves.
I have no idea how the plan to control the power of the bikes, but I hope they use pragmatism and the abandon the rules paradigms that have lead to exponential cost growth in the era of electronic 4 strokes. How will this make anything cheaper that couldn't be done with cc?
Why not cc? Why not 1. Unanimous as it was, I bet this will lead to the exit of Suzuki in , and possibly Ducati if they are not instantly successful with the new formula. The only good that will come of this is if they use a Moto2 style rulebook but allowing all factories to supply engines and teams to build their own bikes.
Sadly, this will still spell the end to Suzuki's presence as well as Ducati and we'll just see a rotisserie of 'Cosworths' come to the table with non-competitive power-plants and then exit after a year. In and of itself, the displacement changes solve nothing because teams can spend whatever they want; however, it does reduce the cost of losing.
Furthermore, more displacement will allow the engineers to build bikes that can make hp and probably easily last the requisite 3 or 4 races that Dorna want. This is definitely good news, though I'm going to wait to learn of further details going along with this change before I get too excited. I'm hoping the new 1,cc formula, once it is all ironed out, will include technical regulations that allow for more than simply 4-cylinder machines to be competitive.
Unlike the old cc formula, for example, it would be cool to see regs that allow twin-cylinder machines to be a viable option, while still leaving the potential for the other cylinder number configurations as it was during the early days of the four-stroke era.
Technical diversity in MotoGP is a good thing, and will likely attract more manufacturers to the series. Something which is badly needed That the contract states that no changes may be made to the engine capacity without a unanimous decision by all of the manufacturers in the MSMA Come on guys. They just need to ban traction control and limit revs to 14,rpm. Have 25ltr of E85 e85 runs very cool like methanol to use over the race and all of a sudden you have fast cheap green powerd bikes that arnt run lean.
They must be able to make the Motogp cc bikes cheaper and still faster than the Australian Superbikes. Sorry for having a winge!!! I think that going back to cc is akin to throwing good money after bad - we're here now, the racing is competitive, and the future is non-fossil fuels - so why go to something that will use MORE fuel? Seems stupid. Perhaps I'm just not wearing the right rose-tinted glasses when I think about the s, but maybe the people who carry on about smoking powerslides as this seems to be the primary reason people want the big motors back should watch a re-run of the Philip Island MotoGP race?
The cc bikes will be exactly like the cc bikes - high corner speed, electronics taking away the fun unless the rider wants it - just more expensive. Research has shown that people exposed over long periods to noise levels higher than 85 dBA are at a far higher risk for hearing loss, so if you plan to watch a lot of MotoGP live, consider seriously taking earplugs along.
The alternative is a high-risk foray into excessive sound attacks, which might well become debilitating later in life. Just ask the hard rockers who thought it was cool to stand right beside the speaker towers at a Black Sabbath concert. That said, there is nothing quite like standing on the side of a racetrack — any racetrack! It may be your spine or perhaps your rib cage that converts the sound of the approaching pack into a feeling, but goose-bumps follow, and your heart rate will most definitely spike as they charge down at you.
Not only will you hear the Screamers and the Big Bangs, but you will also feel them in your torso and in — not just with — your ears. The adrenalin rush is massive, and your heart will be thumping long after they have passed. Note this caveat; you have around 90 secs — dependent on the circuit — before they come round again, so resist the temptation to tough it out and do the sensible thing: Pop those earplugs into your lugholes!
This loss can occur when any part of the ear or possibly the nerves that carry information on sounds from your ear to your brain begin working erratically.
Often, loss of hearing can be temporary. However, it can become permanent when vital parts of your ear become injured past the point of correction, and damage to any part of the ear can lead to hearing loss.
Loud noise, in particular, is very harmful to the inner ear cochlea. A one-time exposure to deafening sounds or simply listening to loud sounds like metal music or MotoGP bikes for a long time, can cause severe hearing loss. As mentioned, loud noise can undoubtedly damage cells as well as membranes in your ear. If you listen to loud noise for a long time, you stand the danger of overworking hair cells in your ear and killing the cells off entirely.
This hearing loss continues as long as the exposure takes place. Harmful effects might worsen even after the noise exposure has been shut out. Done damage to the inner ear or auditory neural system is usually permanent. There is a genuine reason that the mechanics at Moto Events wear protection for the ears, and it goes far beyond the recent regulation changes imposed by FIM. You might even miss whispers. Normal sounds may appear muffled, and you might even experience some ringing in your ears.
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